Friday, April 30, 2010

Federal Judge Victoria A. Roberts Questions Why Hutaree Members Were Arrested and the Evidence Presented in Court

Earlier today, I was attacked by a blog probably funded directly or indirectly by Billy Long on the position I took over the arrest of Hutaree. The anonymous blogger who runs Defeat Nodler wrote a slanderous accusation claiming I was sympathetic to a militia who wanted to shoot cops. However, I have always made a Constitutional argument asking questions of their arrest. So it gave me great joy today to hear Mike Huckabee tell his listeners on the Huckabee report the federal judge basically asked the same questions I did in court, and has doubts over the raid. In case you didn't hear the Huckabee Report, he simplifies it by asking are these guys who really wanted to kill cops or just a group of Americans who got together because they were angry at the government.

(If the video doesn't work, visit http://www.redlasso.com/ClipPlayer.aspx?id=e1766349-37d9-476f-b890-fc9d4a8bf39f to hear Mike Huckabee.)
Let's look at what was written about me:

Bungalow Bill, a blogger/conspiracy theorist who routinely writes nice things about Gary Nodler (one of the worst Congressional candidates in the history of the United States), has been acting confused about why this blog would question his judgment, his sympathies with violent militia groups who plot to kill police officers, or his open admiration for conspiracy theorists who believe that George W Bush launched the 9/11 attacks on this country.

The Defeat Nodler blogger is referring to a post that Alex Jones posted on his site last month. The following is that blog:

Precrimes, Hutaree, and Free Political Speech: Questioning the Federal Government's Decision to Raid Hutaree in Michigan

Eight of the nine members of Hutaree pled not guilty to charges brought against them by the federal government. As the story developed this week, we now know that an FBI agent infiltrated the compound and set up the raid from within.

In federal court today, they played a recording the FBI agent made during exercises with the scary guys in camouflage who shot guns on their own private property. Here is the transcript from court and that hearing:

"How much longer are you going to put up with a foreign army controlling your streets and highways?" David Brine Stone was heard saying.

"Now's the time to strike and take our nation back."

William Swor, Stone’s attorney, argued he was exercising his constitutional right to free speech. I have to agree. If this is the evidence they have, there are many of us in trouble for claiming the need to take our nation back.

"What we heard today is that Mr. Stone talks a lot, that Mr. Stone is angry," Swor said in court. "There's nothing that says he was looking to make war on the United States."

If this is the evidence the federal government used to move in on these scary guys in camouflage who shot guns on their own private property, the rest of us freedom of speech loving people who are worried about the current direction of our country could be in a lot of trouble.

I am not sure I see a crime in these words, and this isn’t Minority Report where you can be found guilty of pre-crimes either.

The FBI agent who infiltrated the group of scary camouflage guys who shot guns on their own private property noted Thomas Piatek had over 50 firearms in his possession and thousands of rounds of ammunition. Excuse me, but this doesn’t make someone guilty, in case the FBI agent forgot about the Second Amendment, which places no limits on the amount of arms and American can bear.

The eight men and one woman with seditious conspiracy, attempted use of weapons of mass destruction, and possessing a firearm during a crime of violence. If this group of Americans had “weapons of mass destruction” then why should we doubt Saddam Hussein had WMDs too? What are the weapons of mass destruction? Where did they find them? I want proof as well, especially since this Justice Department is run by many of the same Democrats who mocked George W. Bush’s claim.

The more I look at this raid, the more I fear for our own rights, as it seems the federal government is now looking to incriminate anyone who says, “we need to take our country back” and owns some bullets and firearms, which pretty much describes your average tea party the Democrats and the mainstream have gone out of their demonize in recent weeks.


Sympathetic of Hutaree or worried about the Constitution? I think it's clear the latter is clearly the case. None the less, it's important to note want took place in a Michigan Courtroom. The Detroit News writes:

A federal judge on Wednesday expressed strong reservations about the weight of the evidence against nine militia members accused of plotting to wage war against the United States.

But a federal prosecutor said the government can’t always wait until a plot is carried out to charge those involved and asked the judge to consider how much better things would be if federal agents had been able to arrest Timothy McVeigh before he blew up the federal building in Oklahoma City, killing 168 people.

U.S. District Judge Victoria A. Roberts repeatedly pressed prosecutors about what evidence they are pointing to in support of the seditious conspiracy charge that all nine Hutaree militia defendants are facing.



The Hutaree members also face charges of attempted use of a weapon of mass destruction. But defense lawyers have noted no bombs were among the large amounts of weapons and ammunition seized from defendants and said the only explosives set off at Hutaree training exercises were supplied and detonated by an undercover FBI agent who infiltrated the group.

“My client has said nothing worse than you can hear on television or radio or any one of a billion Internet screeds on any given day,” argued William Swor, a Detroit attorney representing lead defendant, David Stone Sr.


By the way if Gary Nodler is one of the worst Congressional candidates in history, does that make Billy Long, who can't answer debate questions without his aids and his iPhone, the worst?

4 comments:

  1. This whole case is nonsense, one can hope the charges will be thrown out before it goes to trial.

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  2. I think you need to keep in mind the people who live around them, myself included. I live less than a mile from them, and I could hear the automatic gun fire. So please, think of the people who have to live in fear of them living near them. If you want to let them "free" maybe they should live next to you and see if it changes your mind.

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  3. @ anonymous

    You sound like a pussy. If they live outside the city limits, they can fire away. Thanks for thinking so highly of private property rights. Move if you can't stand the heat. What you describe doesn't make them guilty!

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  4. Well Mister... I own a gun and fire away, but it's not an automatic gun... having an automatic gun should be left to the military... not the crazy people! When I'm sitting on my front porch and I can here an automatic gun going off, I have the right to be scared! And, last I checked, it's illegal to own an automatic gun!

    I just bought this home less than a year ago. Why should I have to be the person to move? Why can't I have a say in whether or not they should be allowed back? It's not just for the safety for me, but others who have to deal with or live around them. I have friends and family who they were planning to kill... sorry you don't have a heart or feelings to think that deeply.

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